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So if you've any spoilers (aside from TWOIAF) I'm all ears.I've only read the first book, but it seems to me like he thinks that Jon is full of himself. As others have noted, Alliser Thorne hates everybody. It's shame we don't see a single interaction between him and Benjen given that he's also a Stark level 1 [No Spoilers] Why does Ser Alliser Thorne hate Jon? Spoilers must have warning. Yet, he is okay with Slynt who is both a coward and entitled lordling, obnoxiously so. I know he was a Royalist during Robert's Rebellion and was pardoned, but I don't see why he holds a grudge against this one particular individual. And his first act? Be legal and respectful to others. … And this is not his only bad experience.The boy also attacks him with a knife when his father goes the same way as all traitors. I've read all the books, and I've started on TWOIAF too and I still can't see why he hates Jon so much. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcutsCookies help us deliver our Services. His antagonism with Jon seems to have mutated into a truly special form of hate, in part, because Jon refused to shut up and just allow himself to be bullied… He survived Tywin Lannister's troops sacking King's Landing, and was given the choice by the old hypocrite of going to the Wall or the headsman's block. **NOT A SPOILER-SAFE ZONE, NEVER WILL BE. Thorne is not the only one to get sick of this kid really fast. He is such a hypocrite. Since then, he's been spending time trying to teach a bunch of rapers, thieves and slack-jawed farm boys how to fight. It is a safe place regardless of where you are in the story. Jon came along and messed up his applecart, and it was the last straw.Thorne becoming chummy with Slynt is why I cannot take the man's grudge against Jon seriously. He is such a hypocrite.He dislikes Jon for being raised in a castle and being the son of one of the rebel leaders in Robert's Rebellion. He beheads his new best friend and fellow Kingslander, Lord Janos This a very fair POV for Alliser. Here is a man who did his duty. Content must be relevant. And then he undermines Thorne's authority, forming his own gang in order to protect a fat lordling who can't even defend himself against a child. Because Thorne is a miserable c-wordNed's friend Robert is why he is at the Wall - was given a choice after the Rebellion...House Thorne was Targaryen loyalists.Because he knew that Jon Pussy was a Cunt. None. I don't think Thorne Read AGOT again, Jon is an irritating little boy who annoys a lot of people during his early days at Castle Black. We have three main rules.
After seeing Jon kill Styr, Ygritte aims her bow at him but hesitates, then is fatally shot by Olly. Alliser thorne was a Targaryen supporter during Robert's Rebellion and likely holds a grudge against the starks for the part the played in the war which lead to him being stuck at wall. In lieu of this, he settled for stabbing him in the chest with the other mutineers.If I can say one thing about Thorne, he did do what he felt was right. 10 comments. And Slynt was a devoted Lannister supporter, the same family (under Tywin's orders) that sent Thorne to the wall.While I still consider Thorne to be an utter asshole, you do bring up a fail and balanced view of his perspective of the situation regarding Jon Snow. r/Freefolk neither encourages nor discourages piracy. Oh, and this mopey, bratty kid who has no respect? And then the Lannisters, Baratheons and the Starks overthrew the king.A new regime was brought in. Slynt leaves Jon in charge, and as the tide turns at the Wall, Jon joins the fight below. If my entire job description was "train recruits" and some bastard acted like he knew how to do my job better than me, I'd not like him either. Even before Ned was accused of betraying Robert after becoming Hand, Thorne was accusing Jon of being a "traitor's bastard", so it's likely he's just holding a grudge as a royalist knight who has been very unjustly punished, especially when you consider that Ser Barristan Selmy was treated by Robert's personal maester and pardoned after the Battle of the Trident.Thorne was a loyalist soldier during Robert's Rebellion, he was at King's Landing doing his job, when Tywin Lannister gave him the wonderful choice between summary execution, or exile to the Wall. The son of one of the leaders (one of the traitors, as he sees it) of the Rebellion that absolutely ruined his life. A bastard cunt!New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castWe do not kneel. His situation is somewhat ironic because Robert likely would have completely pardoned him (Robert was well known for being merciful, and turning enemies into allies), but he had the bad luck of Tywin Lannister's more rigid sense of justiceAdd to the above that Ned Stark was a high ranking commander in Robert's army, so Thorne probably has some lingering animosity towards the Starks in generalThe Night's Watch, or at least Castle Black itself, obviously plays favorites with Northmen.
So if you've any spoilers (aside from TWOIAF) I'm all ears.I've only read the first book, but it seems to me like he thinks that Jon is full of himself. As others have noted, Alliser Thorne hates everybody. It's shame we don't see a single interaction between him and Benjen given that he's also a Stark level 1 [No Spoilers] Why does Ser Alliser Thorne hate Jon? Spoilers must have warning. Yet, he is okay with Slynt who is both a coward and entitled lordling, obnoxiously so. I know he was a Royalist during Robert's Rebellion and was pardoned, but I don't see why he holds a grudge against this one particular individual. And his first act? Be legal and respectful to others. … And this is not his only bad experience.The boy also attacks him with a knife when his father goes the same way as all traitors. I've read all the books, and I've started on TWOIAF too and I still can't see why he hates Jon so much. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcutsCookies help us deliver our Services. His antagonism with Jon seems to have mutated into a truly special form of hate, in part, because Jon refused to shut up and just allow himself to be bullied… He survived Tywin Lannister's troops sacking King's Landing, and was given the choice by the old hypocrite of going to the Wall or the headsman's block. **NOT A SPOILER-SAFE ZONE, NEVER WILL BE. Thorne is not the only one to get sick of this kid really fast. He is such a hypocrite. Since then, he's been spending time trying to teach a bunch of rapers, thieves and slack-jawed farm boys how to fight. It is a safe place regardless of where you are in the story. Jon came along and messed up his applecart, and it was the last straw.Thorne becoming chummy with Slynt is why I cannot take the man's grudge against Jon seriously. He is such a hypocrite.He dislikes Jon for being raised in a castle and being the son of one of the rebel leaders in Robert's Rebellion. He beheads his new best friend and fellow Kingslander, Lord Janos This a very fair POV for Alliser. Here is a man who did his duty. Content must be relevant. And then he undermines Thorne's authority, forming his own gang in order to protect a fat lordling who can't even defend himself against a child. Because Thorne is a miserable c-wordNed's friend Robert is why he is at the Wall - was given a choice after the Rebellion...House Thorne was Targaryen loyalists.Because he knew that Jon Pussy was a Cunt. None. I don't think Thorne Read AGOT again, Jon is an irritating little boy who annoys a lot of people during his early days at Castle Black. We have three main rules.
After seeing Jon kill Styr, Ygritte aims her bow at him but hesitates, then is fatally shot by Olly. Alliser thorne was a Targaryen supporter during Robert's Rebellion and likely holds a grudge against the starks for the part the played in the war which lead to him being stuck at wall. In lieu of this, he settled for stabbing him in the chest with the other mutineers.If I can say one thing about Thorne, he did do what he felt was right. 10 comments. And Slynt was a devoted Lannister supporter, the same family (under Tywin's orders) that sent Thorne to the wall.While I still consider Thorne to be an utter asshole, you do bring up a fail and balanced view of his perspective of the situation regarding Jon Snow. r/Freefolk neither encourages nor discourages piracy. Oh, and this mopey, bratty kid who has no respect? And then the Lannisters, Baratheons and the Starks overthrew the king.A new regime was brought in. Slynt leaves Jon in charge, and as the tide turns at the Wall, Jon joins the fight below. If my entire job description was "train recruits" and some bastard acted like he knew how to do my job better than me, I'd not like him either. Even before Ned was accused of betraying Robert after becoming Hand, Thorne was accusing Jon of being a "traitor's bastard", so it's likely he's just holding a grudge as a royalist knight who has been very unjustly punished, especially when you consider that Ser Barristan Selmy was treated by Robert's personal maester and pardoned after the Battle of the Trident.Thorne was a loyalist soldier during Robert's Rebellion, he was at King's Landing doing his job, when Tywin Lannister gave him the wonderful choice between summary execution, or exile to the Wall. The son of one of the leaders (one of the traitors, as he sees it) of the Rebellion that absolutely ruined his life. A bastard cunt!New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castWe do not kneel. His situation is somewhat ironic because Robert likely would have completely pardoned him (Robert was well known for being merciful, and turning enemies into allies), but he had the bad luck of Tywin Lannister's more rigid sense of justiceAdd to the above that Ned Stark was a high ranking commander in Robert's army, so Thorne probably has some lingering animosity towards the Starks in generalThe Night's Watch, or at least Castle Black itself, obviously plays favorites with Northmen.